Teachers — the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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From grade school through college, I've had teachers who varied widely in quality and character. There was Mr. Cullen, the inspiring music teacher in junior high. There was Mrs. O'Halloran, my fifth grade teacher, who rumor had it used to be a stripper. Sometimes while we were reading assigned parts of our textbook in class, she would on a whim sit down at the piano which was in the room and play what sounded very much like old-time music to accompany strip tease artists. In high school there was Mrs. Gould, the "English teacher" (we called her Mrs. Ghoul), who would walk in, assign some reading, and then go to sleep at her desk.
Here are three archetype teachers I had (or endured): one each from junior high (the good), college (the bad), and high school (the ugly).
THE GOOD
Mrs. Tolson was my math teacher in seventh grade. She took a personal interest in each student. When we came into her class, we would sometimes find notes she would leave on student's desks — she commended them for a job well done, or offered needed corrections. She signed each note "ACT" (Alma C. Tolson) — it always seemed to be an injunction as well as a signature! Do you know how to calculate square roots without a calculator? Cube roots? We were not only doing that, but we were doing it in base 16 and base 7 and base 2. She taught us set theory. I came out of her class feeling like I really understood math. What a teacher!
THE BAD
Mr. Millerton taught French at the university I attended. He walked in each class exactly at the starting time. He demanded that we spend many hours in the language lab each week, doing mindless drills in French, and prove it with time-stamped passes. One week. I remember I spent 15 hours there, just for that one course. People immediately began dropping out of his class. The class started with 30 some students, and on the last day there were only four (including me — it wouldn't work for me to delay my foreign language requirement). He had a way of humiliating students who asked questions, and he made general comments on more than one occasion about the intellectual "laziness" of the class.
One day, he didn't show up. Everyone was stunned — it seemed as if he wouldn't miss the class for any reason. The next class, he showed up on time, and was overwhelmingly apologetic. He said he had to miss the class, as his wife was giving birth at the class hour. At the end of course, I checked with the few other students who had stayed until the end. Millerton had given course grades of respectively A, B, C, and D to the students in order of their test rank. (I got the B.) I heard the next term that Millerton had been let go by the university. I can't imagine why.
THE UGLY
Mrs. Houston, the Latin teacher, was the worst teacher I ever had. I took her class when I was a high school freshman. She was five feet tall, and it seemed five feet wide. Basically a human bowling ball. She had an evil grin. She would just dump the Latin on the board, she couldn't really teach. She would give frequent surprise quizzes. At the start of class, she would give the evil grin and say "Claudite libros" (close your books).
There were about 25 chairs in the class, and she had this sort of long pole that she could use to reach anywhere in the room, and rap it sharply on a student's desk if she thought he was falling asleep or not paying attention. When the results of each quiz came back, she would have everyone stand up against the classroom walls. Then she would reseat everyone in a sort of reverse West Point order: the student with the worst score would be seated in this special desk right next to hers, then the next score up in the next seat, and so on with the highest scoring in the back. She would start out by saying "The doubtful honor of the front seat goes to ____", and the humiliated student would shuffle over and sit down. She also liked to berate students in class — she might do this to one student for up to ten minutes.
The guys would play pranks on her. One time some guys somehow got into the locked empty classroom, and put a live frog in her desk drawer. At noon when she had another class, students would knock on her closed classroom door, and then skitter off to their hall locker. This evolved into who could give the most thunderous kick to her door. She would always run out in the hall, puffing and jiggling, looking around with the evil eye to ascertain who she thought the culprit was.
When the year of Latin 1 ended, two guys had a special use for the two thousand vocabulary flash cards she made everyone keep. (This was before small computers, kiddies.) The last day of school, they each dumped their 2000 cards on her desk while she was out. Then they dumped some stuff on top of the cards. You don't want to know what they dumped on the cards.
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After reading your article, I remembered my teacher, who was good, bad and the ugly. He taught me how to speak and write in English, he punished me as if I was his slave, and he was evicted from the school because of his scandals.
Ardie,
Thanks for posting. Sometimes the problem is caused by a student, sometimes by a teacher, sometimes by a parent, and sometimes by a member of the school board.
When I was student teaching *art* in a high school, a member of the school board told my supervising teacher "tell the student teacher to not teach modern art."
Vinaya,
It almost sounds as though your teacher had a split personality -- good *and* bad *and* ugly! Your English is better than some people I know who were born in the United States. At least your teacher did something right.
Teachers are people too! I sometimes laugh at strange pedestal teachers are placed on. They want to pay as little as possible, not respect and then expect you to be perfect????
Oh, that was hilarious, it reminds me of some of my teacher I had growing up! Good job!
KrystalD,
Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your taking the time to comment.
arusho,
I'm glad you enjoyed reading my article. *Things* happen not just in the United States. Read Vinaya's comment. He's from Kathmandu, Nepal.
Daisy, excellent.
I wish all teachers were like your Mrs. Tolson. I've had some bad ones, too--ones who stifled creativity, were clueless about their subjects, who could only teach by rote repetition (boring!).
Then I've had a few who were real gems, like my Mrs. Hendry in 11th grade world history class, Rockville, Maryland. She snared me on the subject of history with one word: "motivation." She had lived in China and knew some of the effects of that motivation, first hand.
And then there was my third Spanish teacher, Mrs. O'Donald (I think that's how her name was spelled) who made the last half of third year high school Spanish into a creativity fest that was fun and captivating.
Education can be improved, but we have to rethink the entire system.
Like getting rid of the "every kid goes at the same rate" mentality. They don't and they never have. Like failing a kid for a whole year (at first grade, that's about 15% of their life!). Like feeding ego with the grading system. Why not challenge all kids to make perfect scores and then help them achieve it?
I had a hard time in first grade learning to read. My first teacher was a real battle axe--corporal punishment for creativity (telling science fiction stories on the playground). My second first-grade teacher (for the last half of the year when we moved to Oregon from West Texas)--Mrs. Young--was quite different. Though I was at the bottom of the class in reading, she saw that I was light-years ahead of everyone else in math. So, she tutored me, one-on-one, after class to get me over the hump. At the time, I didn't appreciate it. I thought I was being punished. Years later, after I published my first novel, I sent her an autographed copy as a "thank-you."
We need a movement to re-invent education in America. Kids have so much potential and it's being wasted with the "bads" and the "uglies."
Lonestar, great point. I think the system itself creates teaches with cases of "bads" and "uglies." The teachers become just as victimized by this terrible one size fits all system! Progressive education which allows for student led curriculums and is based on individual learning styles and speeds makes much more sense. This was a funny hub but I appreciate that it does bring out a very serious issue.
lone77star,
I agree with you - K12 education needs to be more flexible and adaptable to a student's needs. And re your reading tutoring experience, the teachers need to always consider what their actions must "look like" to younger students.
KrystalD,
Sometimes the way to get a point across is with humor -- at least until the person is drawn into the subject.
I read your profile, and I see that you're from Los Angeles. May I ask whether you work for the LAUSD?
(Los Angeles Unified School District, for those of you not from California)
Great hub Daisy! Makes me think about the variety of teachers I have had from kindergarden to college. They have the opportunity to make the biggest difference in a person's life. I was fortunate to have some very caring teachers in high school. I really enjoyed you hub. Well done!
I'm glad you enjoyed this Hub, Tammy.
Writing the article brought back alot of memories for me. I've recalled teachers I hadn't thought about for years.
One thing I had nearly forgotten: my mother and I had the same teacher -- for Kindergarten and high school Physical Education. Have you ever had a teacher who taught one of your relatives from the generation before yours?
Daisy, I am very grateful not to work with LAUSD (a well-known crazy maker). I have many friends however who do work for LAUSD and I know their struggles well. I started in public education in Fairfax County, VA (a very well, funded, organized school district).
I later taught in a charter school in Inglewood, CA (closest I got to LAUSD). I enjoyed the students but the school was riddled with organizational problems and just plain misguided priorities. I craved creativity and kids that loved and wanted to learn because they were allowed to be themselves and explore their interests.
So I taught for two-years at a wonderful child development center in Los Angeles. I LOVED the hands-on, constructivist learning I got to provide for those little ones (PK-K), but I made barely enough to live on! So next I decided to follow a lifelong dream and teach abroad! I worked in Cairo, Egypt almost a year before their revolution broke out (I stand in solidarity with the Egyptian people). I learned so much about the world and how universal the loves and passions of children are.
When I arrived in LA after searching for quite a bit of time I found what I think is a perfect match for me: a small, progressive, nonprofit school that embraces democracy and learning through doing at the very center of their philosophy and practice. No more books! No more tests! I have spent the last few months woodworking, gardening, going on field trips, letting them read and write what they want till their hearts content and have lots of class meeting where they come up with solutions to solve our problems (1st and 2nd grade multi-age).
I love this way of teaching and learning so much that I am convinced it is an adequate alternative to the one size fits all, underfunded, assessment driven public education system we have now.
You have quite a background, KrystalD. I'm impressed!
I thought I would add this anecdote of the experience of a student in another country. Ali, an acquaintence of mine in college who was an older student, told this story about when he was in the fifth grade in Iran. He had a grumpy teacher who sat in front of the class in a big wooden chair. Each day when the teacher came into the classroom, he'd sort of collapse heavily into the chair. This gave Ali an idea.
There used to be these round caps that you could throw on the sidewalk, and they'd explode, about with the noise of the smallest firecracker. One day Ali came in early, and put one of those under each leg of the chair. When the teacher arrived, he sat down as usual, and the caps exploded. He jumped up and was so startled, his false teeth popped out and clattered onto his desk! He "just knew" that Ali must have been the culprit, and gave him a sound paddling.
Now, advance the clock 15 years. Ali is walking down a street, and who should he see but the same teacher, now looking old, passing him in the opposite direction. Ali grabbed him and slammed up against a wall. He said "DO you know who I am, you blankety blank blank??" The teacher assured him he didn't. Ali thought about for a second, laughed, and then let him go.
I am a teacher and boy does that hit home! I have had some pretty bad teachers in my life. One so bad that I have math anxiety to this day. While other teachers were so wonderful I often dreamed of being adopted by them! I strive to be that "good" teacher. I try to love the un-loveable, to teach the hopeless, and to reach those deemed unreachable. I hope other teachers will realize their shortcomings and get on board! Good hub!
vway01,
Thanks so much for posting your comment. Its heartening to see that you're helping those students that other teachers *might* ignore. Thanks for being a good teacher.
A great hub Daisy;simply unique and so entertaining.
Here's to a year of sharing so much right here on HubPages.
I vote this one up up and away.
Take care
Eddy.
I'm glad you enjoyed reading my article, Eddy. What's the educational system like in Wales?
Hi Daisy,
I was attracted to this article as I teach nurses currently. So many of us carry around the unnessary baggage from 'the Bad and the Ugly' we have had 'teach?' us over the years... I can see wonderful adults feeling as though they are incapable of learning. It gives me all the more resolve to emulate some of 'the Good' instructore I have been blessed with over the years.
Voted UP & across the board!
I love your writing style and will look forward to reading much more. Have a great day, mar.
marcourjour,
Thanks for commenting. You've brought up a very good point:
Adult students are having difficultly learning today because of the bad and ugly teachers they had while students in Kindergarten through the twelfth grade.
Everyone,
Here's something I read in the news today:
Angry parents in Kenya are attacking teachers throughout the country. They're angry their children failed national exams that determine whether the children get into high school.
A head teacher at one school is believed to have committed suicide after the test results of all 38 students from his school were canceled due to allegations of cheating.
More than half the 760,000 children who took the exam in 2011 may not go to high school.
What do you think about this?
Oh, how heartbreaking is this news. Are people forgetting that parents have at least half of this responsibility? For a teacher to commit suicide... oh my goodness. Even the 'Good' teachers cannot do it all.
Blaming can be so shaming... we all need to try much harder, mar.
marcoujor,
What were the parents doing throughout the school year? Did they know what their children were studying? Did they discuss homework problems with them?
What was the head teacher doing throughout the school year? Did he know that his students didn't understand their school work? Were periodic tests and quizzes given?
What were the students doing throughout the school year?Did they ask questions in class? Did they ask for help with their homework?
So many questions...
Great Hub. I think I've had inverse experiences with teachers. My elementary and high school teachers were good. My middle school teachers were mostly bad and my college professors were some combination of each.
I totally understand about teachers who can't teach. My mom and I would talk about that all the time because it is something that happens. Some people are very intellectually gifted but can't impart knowledge. It's not their fault, some can do and those who can't, teach. Great hub!
Alecia - thanks for your comment. In my experience, there's a wide variation in teachers. I just wonder how the worst ones got their job.
I was fortunate to have good teachers in high school, despite the fact that I drove them crazy. The way society is today, I would never consider being a teacher.. NOOOO way! This is a great hub. Well done!
LOL this was very enjoyable to read. I always saw my teachers/professors as being:
*Good & Nice
*Good But Mean
*Bad but Nice
*Bad & Mean
Usually the teachers who were Mean but Good were always the better teachers, because they motivated me and encouraged me to do better. The Nice and Good teachers were always approachable, were also encouraging but they never pushed me to do better the same way the Mean but Good teachers did.
The Mean & Bad teachers always hated coming into class and they just gave everyone C's just because they didn't want us to fail, but also didn't want to give us the satisfaction of a B or A. The Nice but Bad Teachers were the worst because even though everyone would pass the class with flying colors, we never learned anything from them, they were forgettable, and too much of a push over to really care about if the students understood if we knew what they talking about.
That's my 2 cents in this Hub, great job, keep up the great work. Voted Up, and Everything Else :)
Daisy, this is good stuff. There are some good and some bad teachers out there. I certainly hope the good outweighs the bad. I was like Tammy, I had great teachers that I drove crazy. Funny thing about Karma... LOL When I started teaching in my hometown school, I went to each teacher and apologized. I was the class clown and a talker. Surprisingly, they all said they loved having me in class... Hmmm...
As the teacher now, I try to find something good in every student who walks through the door. Maybe my teachers were not pulling my leg when they said they loved having me in class because I also love the class clowns and talkers. I really have a good time with my job because it is rare that I haven't found good in almost every single student (Okay, I admit it, there have been at least three in twenty years that I really didn't care for but I never showed it to them or my classes).
Great hub!! Voted up!! :-)
Oh my goodness, you have some interesting stories. It's taking me way back in my memory banks - I had a teacher who assigned lessons and sat back to read her romance novels and pick her pimples. And the teacher who made my favorite subject my least favorite class. And the one who managed to get me to bare my soul and tell my secrets in my journal I knew she was going to read.
Carl,
You're an astute analyst...of movies and of teachers. I agree with you that the Nice but Bad Teachers are the worst. They're wasting everyone's time, don't you agree?
Tammy,
Thanks for commenting. I applaude the teachers of today. They have to deal with so many difficulties just to able to teach their students.
sholland10,
The class clowns and talkers are remembered because they don't just sit there trying to be invisible. That type of student is OK as long as the other students can still learn.
I have a friend who taught programming classes at a career college. He had some students in his classes who were so disruptive, the *good* students were unable to write their code during lab time.
Millionaire Tips,
I appreciate your telling us about your bad teacher experiences. The problems don't just exist in the United States. Vinaya commented earlier about his bad English teacher...in Kathmandu, Nepal.
Oh no Daisy, this was in the US. My daughter had a teacher who went on maternity leave, and had substitute teachers all year. I didn't know she would be gone all year, and that the substitute teachers didn't teach her any math - they just assigned her homework and expected her to learn on her own. She still struggles to overcome that year to this day.
As the teacher, the kids who are so disruptive because they THINK they are funny or THINK they are smarter than everyone else get a warning to stop. If they don't stop being disruptive to other students, they are booted out into the hall or to the office. That rarely happens though because I'm too mean to tangle with. ;-) The class clowns are usually funny to everyone and keep it interesting. The talkers usually stop with just a look or a comment. They don't want to cause problems; they just want to visit.
sholland10,
What my friend who taught at the career college did regarding disruptive students who wouldn't pay attention after repeated warnings was speak with the program's department chair. That gentlemen called the disruptive students into his office and had a talk with them.
I think so much can depend on a teacher. The good ones have respectful classes and their students go away with really knowing something useful. They have the ability to develop real friendships with their class. Years later I have a friend who still visits her kindergarten teacher.
carozy,
Thanks for reading my article. I think it's a combination of factors that lead to the success of a class...the teachers and the students and the school administrators.
love this, Daisy. I've had my share of good bad and ugly teachers. Recently, I had a college English instructor who always showed up half hour late, usually because he was playing frisbee golf, and let class out 30 mins early. He also informed us that the semi colon was dead and you'd be marked down for using it. He was there simply to earn a paycheck. nothing more.
Justin,
I'm glad you enjoyed ths article. When I wrote it, I had no idea what kind of reaction I would get.
I'm especially pleased at the postive reaction I'm getting from teachers. The good ones *get* the points I was trying to make.
Hi Daisy, enjoyed reading your hub.
Ruchi,
It's nice to meet you. I'm so glad you enjoyed reading my article.
Have you had any experience with *bad* or *ugly* teachers?
I love this hub! I'm a teacher - and boy, I sure hope my students don't say that I'm a bad teacher!! We've all had them: the good, the bad and the ugly. Voted up and funny and interesting. :)
Cyndi,
Thanks for reading my article and commenting. I can sense from what I've read in your Hubs that you're a great teacher!
I am so glad I had the opportunity to read this hub. Teachers can be the best influence in the world to their students. And some people should not be teachers, as they are only there for the money, evidently. I enjoyed reading your hub, Daisy, it was very interesting, and thanks for sharing.
Bobbi
Bobbi,
Thanks for reading my article. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It's such a shame when a student has a class in which the teacher doesn't care, isn't it? Thankfully, most teachers do care.
I only have memories of good teachers. Maybe I blocked out the bad and the ugly. Both of my daughters are teachers and I'm very proud of them. I often ask them how they do have the patience...they say they love their careers. More power to them:)
Sunshine,
Thanks for reading another of my articles and commenting in it. You're fortunate that you've only had good teachers.
I can also relate to these different types of teachers and even though most of my teachers during my years in school was good teachers, I also remember the other types as well. The trouble with teachers is that you need them for good grades and even if we don't like them we must endure them even if they are bad and/or ugly. When I now hear how my daughter complain about her techers I often think that it isnt easy to be a teacher either. There is a thin line between being regarded as a good teacher and a bad teacher and I admire them!
Thanks for this wonderful hub about the different teachers that so many of us recognize! I loved this hub!
Tina
This hub, along with the comments section, should be sent to every major school district and all board members. I had some horrific teachers throughout my school years (as well as a few stellar teachers). Students who reported the problems, such as being struck with a fist in the back of the neck for telling a fondler to stop the touching, were disbelieved and nothing was done. Students were humiliated, groped, ignored, and mistreated in many cases.
On the plus side, I had an amazing choir teacher who is still remebered with love by all who took his classes. I also had an inspiring and gifted English teacher who helped steer me into my career in writing.
Excellent hub, and a topic that still needs attention. Voted up, useful and interesting.
It is funny how we remember the horrors more than than the good teachers.
The bowling ball teacher sounds like she got paid back in full lol
I had a huge maths teacher in first grade, who taught algebra by punching us in the head.
A punch + B punch = C punch. Painful lessons and not very instructive.
I never did get algebra in school!?
Voted up interesting funny. SHARING
Thanks for writing this hub. Good teachers make a huge difference in students. I remember that I was only interested in classes where the teacher was caring and paid attention to the students. I have had good teachers and some bad ones.
I was a shy little girl and the teachers I had in grade school were terrible. I can't name one good one. They made me afraid of school.
My teachers in high school were fine.
Our kids had some really bad teachers and some really good teachers. They had one teacher fall asleep in class all the time.
The teachers at this school and the office workers called me and wanted me to put a complaint in on him. These people never tried to get to know me all the times that I was at the school helping out. They all walked around with their noses in the air. Now they wanted my help.They didn't want to do it because they might lose their jobs. I wouldn't do it. I liked this man he had been a good teacher to all our kids. Our kids all liked him but this year there was something wrong. Why was he sleeping? Rather than the school trying to find out they were sneaking around. Long story short.........He had a brain tumor and was dead the next year.
Enjoyed reading about your teachers.
I have many of the teachers you describe - the good taught me that when I grew up I wanted to be a teacher just like them - the bad taught me what not to do as a teacher - and the ugly taught me that I never wanted to be that teacher - I hope that I am remembered as one of the "good" ones...
Tina,
Thanks for reading and commenting in another of my articles. It seems that there are good, bad, and ugly teachers all over the world.
School children are in a tough situation if they have one of the bad or ugly teachers...If they complain to the school administration, will the teacher find out and retaliate against them?
Marcy,
Thanks for your very kind words regarding my article. I'm so glad you had an English teacher who influenced you so positively...You're an excellent, successful author.
Michael,
Thanks for reading my article and adding your comments. Thinking back upon it, I'd say I remember more of the bad and ugly teachers than the good ones.
tarajeyaram,
Thanks for reading another of my Hubs. You're so right about good teachers making a huge difference for students. A good teacher can be a positive influence upon a student who, unfortunately, might not have a good role model at home.
moonlake,
Thanks for reading my article and sharing your experiences in the comments section. I appreciate your input.
justateacher,
Thanks for reading my Hub and adding your very astute comments. I've read your comments in other articles regarding teaching, and I know that you'll be remembered as being one of the *good* ones.
Thanks for writing the article. I agree that teacher quality varies. I'm wondering what would be a good metric for administrators to evaluate their teachers.
Hector,
It's nice to meet you. You've posed an excellent question regarding teacher evaulations.
In the California community colleges, administrators observe the instructors in the classroom. Questionnaires are given to the students at the end of the course. The students often answer the questions in a manner that doesn't reflect what actually occurred in the classroom during the term. The evaluation methods in the state are unfair to the instructors and greatly inadequate.
Hi, Nice one..
I came across your article it might be too late reading this article and commenting on it anyway it was nice. I too have good teachers and bad too which everyone have that, but its teacher's job to teach and make understand the child how she or he wants to teach. Teacher knows well how the student wants to learn and understands it. For me every teacher are good their are doing their job its the student who are not able to cop up. (like the chemistry between them is not working out). Teacher him or her sacrifices some what in their life looking for the child each and every day what to teach new thing to them. There are who work only for money for the sake of filling their pocket. I don't know which teacher are you telling about is it tutorial or school/college teacher. I had good teacher in tutorial which would inspire me. Mr. Madi, Mr.Arokia Swamy, Mr. Mukesh and Mrs. Riple Seth. this person who thought me are really great where they sacrifice their time and job and taken time to be with us really they don't care about the fees they just talk with us what's our problem and accordingly they make us feel better motivate us now a days wherever we go to take tutorial they first ask to pay the fees and then they let us in. I and my friends are very lucky where we get such kind of people because of their teaching in languages, maths, Accounts well now i am also teaching following their path for students who are poor and helping them out, this students are very nice and awesome where i too get to learn form them. For me every teacher some where the bad and ugly some what something would have taught you think.. sorry to say this but they are really.... good and they too think which are good for our future. Thanks.
MTB Students,
Welcome to HubPages. Thanks for reading my article and commenting in it. I appreciate reading the perspective of someone from India regarding this subject.
thanks for the replying.. have a nice day ahead..
loved it
mm,
Thanks for reading my article. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Daisy, I loved this article, it really made me laugh. I can count the good teachers I had on one hand. I wished I had had a Ms Tolson when I was in the final years of school, I might have tried harder!
Voted up n shared.
Julie,
Thanks for reading my article, commenting in it, and sharing it. I appreciate it.
May 6 - May 12 is National Teachers Week in the United States. Is there a similar holiday in England?
No, sadly our teachers don't get a national day - which I think is a great idea by the way. I work in a school and all of the teachers work SO hard!(I am not a teacher). In this country, the government is still trying to tear apart the education system and start all over again. Some would argue, they would be better off just leaving schools to get on with the job instead of them being stressed out by all of the constant government inspection and re-inspection, it is horrendous.
Julie,
Thanks for visiting again. Thanks, too, for enlightening us a bit about the educational system in England. Why don't you write a Hub on the subject?
I am not going to lie, this makes me want to make sure I am a great teacher when I graduate! I am lucky that I never had that bad of experiences, but I understand fully what you mean by there being a few teachers who are good, bad, and ugly. This really reminded me of why I am going to be a teacher as well because I do not like the idea of bad teachers out there making school difficult for students!
Crystal,
Thanks for reading and commenting in another of my Hubs. If a student has a bad or indifferent teacher, especially in the earlier of his school years, it can affect his attitude about learning for the rest of his educational career.
Ardie Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago
Oh Daisy! If teachers tried to pull some of that bad stuff today I'd hate to see how the parents would react. Im not saying I agree with either side BUT I have seen some good teachers get in trouble for some small dispute that a parent blew out of proportion. Ive also seen teachers slam students against walls and never get punished over it...Fortunately for me I only ever had one mean teacher and she made me cry almost every day!!